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Under or Over: The Steering Wheel Chronicles


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The under approach...

..so to continue the discussion from yesterday on how to hold a steering wheel, in my google search I came up with the JD Power article titled Steering for Optimal Control.

The JD Power piece supports the low riders. As quoted; ”The current recommendation for hand placement (if you imagine your steering wheel is a clock) is anywhere between 7 o'clock and 9 o'clock for your left hand and between 3 o'clock and 5 o'clock for your right hand. Although it may feel strange to have your hands so low on the steering wheel, this actually provides better control than the "10 and 2" method.

I asked Dan Edmunds, Director of Vehicle Testing at Edmunds Inc. (no relation to Edmunds), for his opinion. He pointed to a line in the article that states, "A lower hand position (8 and 4 or 7 and 5) makes it less likely that you will overcorrect during an emergency maneuver, which is what often causes spins, slides, and rollovers."
 
His take? "This line of reasoning is an outgrowth of the popularity of SUVs. Since high CG [center of gravity] vehicles like these don't handle well in emergency maneuvers and are the source of most of the rollovers they allude to, this improper hand position is being advocated to compensate. You can't input very much when holding the wheel in this way--so you can't roll the thing over--or so goes the reasoning. They're trying to dull someone's natural reactions."
 
Furthermore, Edmunds says this theory is not taking into account the fact that stability control systems are becoming standard on SUVs (to pass the government rollover test) and will be required on all vehicles in a couple of years.

"Overcorrecting isn't an issue with stability control-equipped vehicles, so this advice seems directed at older SUVs," he said. "I agree that 12 or 6 is bad, bad, bad, but 7 and 5 is nearly the same as 6. I can't follow the logic on this one."

Next, I called Jon Linkov, the Managing Editor of Autos at Consumer Reports, who is a HPDE (high performance driving education) instructor for the BMW car club and National Corvette Museum.

He agrees with Edmunds." I've never seen 8 and 4. I've gone to Audi's winter driving school several times and their instructors always hold 9 and 3 or 10 and 2. That way you can pull or push," he said.

"What about the thumbs," I asked, "Hook or not hook?". He notes that it's a personal feel but the suggestion is to rest them lightly on the wheel.

"A bigger problem I have is the people who have their hands across the wheel," he says. (It's that lazy way of driving!)

Linkov concedes that it's tough to get the right fit unless you have a tilt and telescope wheel and/or adjustable pedals. The ideal is to sit the recommended 10" from the steering wheel (so you don't get bonked by the airbag).

"This position will allow your elbow to bend softly (somewhere between 90 to 180 degrees) so you can turn extreme right or left and not run out of distance."

For more on this controversy check this article.

Now, I’ll put the question to you. How do you put your hands on the wheel?

Posted by Holly Apr 9, 2008 7:35 am

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gobryngo - Apr 9, 2008 12:21 pm (#1 Total: 14)  

 
Santa Monica, CA  
I'm a 10 and 2 kinda gal

blackadder5639 - Apr 9, 2008 12:38 pm (#2 Total: 14)  

 
 
I'm and 8 and 4 person. I actually prefer 9 and 3 best, but my car has a 3-spoke steering wheel and two of the spokes are in the 9 and 3 position. So I resort to 8 and 4, or perhaps 8.30 and 3.30.
 
I do 8 and 4 when going straight. When I have to take a sharp turn, I do about 8 and 2.

santiagofdz - Apr 9, 2008 1:47 pm (#3 Total: 14)  

 
 
I was a bit surprised by yesterdays article, and I'm surprised that this "low style" is supported by JD Power. In any event I'm not impressed by drivers who "seem fast", being a spectacular driver means your probably loosing time and overstressing the car for no good reason. In my case, hands are at 3 and 9.
 
I attended a well known driving school last summer, and they stressed having hands on 3 and 9, or 10 and 2. They were very passionate about this, and were disgusted about the low approach and they said this had more to do with liability in the event of injuries because of airbag deployment rather than proper car control.
 
In any case watch a youtube video featuring a genius at work (Jim Clark, Sir Jackie, Prost, Senna, etc), where do they have their hands on the steering wheel??

wiz101 - Apr 9, 2008 1:54 pm (#4 Total: 14)  

 
New York, New York  
Apparently the new style of teaching is with the hands lower. I was surprised as well to see that my nephew was being taught to hold his hands in the wells below the steering wheel.
 
As for fast drivers---as I said--I leave it to the race track.

tlcruz - Apr 9, 2008 2:59 pm (#5 Total: 14)  

 
far far away from my hometown, pa  
I'm a 6/12 kinda girl. Granted, It always changes but I really, for the most part, drive with my hand at 6. When I took driving school before I got my license, They told me 10 and 2. Honestly, Whatever's comfortable for you, I stay go for it!

ewilfong - Apr 9, 2008 3:49 pm (#6 Total: 14)  

 
 
I drive 9 and 3 pretty consistently. But if I'm cruising on the highway for four hours straight, I can't deny that my hands probably end up in all kinds of unsafe positions. I love the left hand under the chin, right wrist hung over the 12 o'clock position. Still, I'll always go back to 9 and 3 if traffic picks up or it starts raining.

hillrider - Apr 9, 2008 5:12 pm (#7 Total: 14)  

 
 
and what about stick shift drivers? I learned to drive on a stick with one hand on wheel, usually at the noon or, sometimes the 10 am position. This style follows to automatic transmissions, where i still drive with one hand by force of habit.

blackadder5639 - Apr 9, 2008 5:57 pm (#8 Total: 14)  

 
 
Hillrider, I'm a stick shift driver. My right hand remains between 3.30 and 4 when I'm not shifting. Having hands in a lower position make it easier for me to shift when I have to.

firstwagon - Apr 9, 2008 7:27 pm (#9 Total: 14)  

 
 
I keep my hands in all different positions as I drive. No particular favourite. Whatever is comfortable at that moment.
 
Since I've driven for 29 years and never rolled over or lost control, I must be doing it right..

irismg - Apr 9, 2008 9:51 pm (#10 Total: 14)  

 
 
It's amazing the amount of resistance to the 8-to-4 driving position. I mentioned it in a forum once, and you would have thought I'd suggested someone slap their mother! But I feel a person at least has to know why it is the holes in a steering wheel are put where they are, especially since there weren't explosive devices built into the wheels 30 years ago. Personally, I adjusted, and drive with my hands in the lower position, just like I learned not to pump the accelerator before starting my current car. Soon, like it or not, I'll be learning not to pump the brakes. You roll with the changes...

texases - Apr 10, 2008 7:12 am (#11 Total: 14)  

 
 
Regardless of control issues, better to keep at 3/9 or below to avoid the airbag. It will easily break your arm at 12:00.

researchqueen - Apr 10, 2008 10:36 am (#12 Total: 14)  

 
Los Angeles, CA  
The "lower" hand positions has a lot to do with air bags... Meanwhile, I find old habits very hard to break!

wiz101 - Apr 12, 2008 7:41 am (#13 Total: 14)  

 
New York, New York  
In any event, this has opened up an interesting discussion. Like, what about if you are driving an older car with a different placement of airbags--should your hands be higher?

carlisimo - Apr 17, 2008 10:55 am (#14 Total: 14)  

 
United States of America  
10 and 2 has not been advocated ever since airbags came out. The only car on which you don't have to worry about that is the Citroen C4 with its fixed-hub steering wheel (so it doesn't need a circular airbag). In any case, at 9 and 3 you're less likely to accidentally turn the car if you turn around to look over your shoulder or something like that.
 
Under normal driving conditions I find myself at 10 and 3 (yeah, asymmetrical)... not sure why. 9 and 3 for serious driving, and 8 and 4 if I'm going to be driving straight ahead for a very long time and there's little traffic to respond to.




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