Straightline

This kind of future doomsday news is all so far far away.
The 2009 Dodge Ram has a 380 horsepower Hemi. This truck will be on the market for how long? 8 years? That would be 2009 to 2017.
 
Oh dear there won't be a V8 Hemi in 2018...
I reckon I'd be dead by then. Screw you kids.
And that means in 2018 there are laws mandating flying cars only, so you can't go out and buy a used 2017 Hemi Dodge Ram.

How does that linked story say that the Hemi "isn't in future product plans"? It doesn't. It quotes Jim Press as saying that the Hemi "isn't the powertrain of the future". That doesn't mean Chrysler is killing it off, however, just that it won't be the focus of future vehicles or powertrains. What, are they going to get rid of the Hemi V8 in the Ram, the same truck that doesn't have to adhere to the new CAFE standards that everyone is so crazy about?

Pitifull that all this has to happen as a result of a theory that has yet to be scientifically proven. Sounds like the 1970's all over again. I wonder how long it will take the auto industry to rebound this time?

Does this mean Ford will kill their V8 in 2018 too?

orangutan
 
Read the first sentence of the linked story.

rsholland:
 
I read it, but I still don't see how anyone can jump to the conclusion that the Hemi is dead. They state that the Hemi is coming to an end, and support that opinion with three things, none of which actually state that the Hemi is going to die: 1) Chrysler has decreased production of the Hemi, 2)GM has "shelved" their new V8, and 3) Jim Press said that the Hemi "isn't the powertrain of the future". As I said above, that statement doesn't mean that Chrysler is going to kill the Hemi. Why would they cease production of their top V8 that is necessary for trucks, trucks that don't have to adhere to the new CAFE standard? Chrysler may not have plans to keep stuffing the thing into its bloated cars, but it doesn't logically follow from Jim Press' statement that they are going to kill it off.

I have to agree with everyone else, although presumably a more efficient V8 design might be more appropriate going forward. 5.7-liters' worth of pushrod V-8 ain't exactly economical.
 
We have NOT heard any bellyaching from the Europeans, which is curious given that their CAFE averages tend to be the lowest in the industry. Mercedes in particular could do a lot of scaling back (E550? ML550? S550 only? CLS550? See a pattern?).

Mercedes is selling merely what filthy rich Americans want.
In native Europe, Mercedes sells:
Gasoline 1.5L, 1.7L, 1.8L Turbo, 2.0L, 2.0L Turbo, 2.3L.
Diesel 1.6L, 1.8L, 2.0L, 2.2L.
 
The CLS comes in 350CGI and 320CDI.
Even the S class comes in S280, S320 (L) CDI. Such junk so utterly unsuitable for filthy rich Americans. Obviously filthy rich Americans are willing to pay more than enough to overcome CAFE penalties.
 
It's one thing to stick a V8 in a commoner's car. It's another thing to stick a V8 in a filthy richer's car, especially when the commoner constitutes 0% of your customer base.

billt9
 
dont hold back now. Tell us how you really feel.

One point of the article deals with the emissions and fuel economy of the Hemi engine. Unfortunately the MPG is going to hit hard to the V-8 fleet. This will spell the end of the pushrod v-8 engines.

Im a bit lost here. GM states that the Northstar program will be deleted. The LS series pushrod V8 doesnt seen to be going anywhere as they are pretty efficient.
 
On the contrary the "HEMI isnt the engine of the future" yet GM will still offer the LS series?
 
Why cant Chrysler further refine (as GM did) the HEMI line and offer similar or better efficiency?

I think its all BULL****!

GM and Ford plan to introduce more fuel efficient V6's with high end torque for cars but the V8 engine will most likely only be in luxury cars and trucks that need te torque.
 
The HEMI engine was a monster and had its share of quality/reliability problems. In a greener, fuel efficient future, a V8 like that which got 15 mpg city doesn't have alot of throw.
 
Chrysler is so stupid to bring out the 2 door Challenger because wit gas prices the way they are, it isn't going to do well. They haven't even updated the cheap interior.
 
I'm glad to see Ford has seen the errors of their past ways and is compensating with cars like the EDGE, MKS and Focus/Fusion