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Will the fuel filler door double as a porta potty? Easy refill of the urea right?
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20% more fuel economy, but right now diesel costs about 25% more than gas does. So fuel costs are still higher, unless diesel prices drop back down to earth.
This is crazy, but around me diesel is $4.20 a gallon!
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Is the chart comparing the new diesel to the current crop of 5.4L V8's or the next generation of 5.4 V8's that should be seen in the new F150?
The current V8's have the weakest performance in their classes.
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moparbad
- Apr 14, 2008 8:45 am
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Nice engine. Another diesel is needed with less power and greater fuel economy. A 6 cylinder with between 190 and 250 HP for the F150 would provide all the capability needed and much higher efficiency.
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flicmod
- Apr 14, 2008 9:22 am
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A question that just went through my head: Will diesel engines ever fully replace petrol engines in trucks? If not, then why not?
The way I see it, trucks are meant for utility purposes. Diesel engines obviously offer better characteristics for this purpose, so what IS the point of petrol engines in these vehicles? Diesel provides better MPG, better torque, enhanced towing/hauling capabilities, etc. Everything you want in a truck. So why haven't diesel's been more popular in these app's?
Curious to hear some thoughts on that.
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arumage
- Apr 14, 2008 9:58 am
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hondacura4,
does it really matter? Even if it's based on the current, it'll be making 327hp and 420 ft. lbs. at very, very low RPMs.
ateixeira,
If someone uses their as it was intended, the diesel will be worth the 5% difference in operating costs if only for the fact that it will tow so much better and go so much farther on a tank of gas, not to mention that a diesel will probably hold closer to it's EPA numbers under the stress of towing. My father-in-law's Silverado drops to about 13mpg highway when towing his covered trailer.
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estreka
- Apr 14, 2008 10:09 am
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I don't trust these percentages. And the current crop of Ford V8s isn't exactly the benchmark I'd want to compare them to. Bring on the turbodiesels!
On that note, we just got a brand spankin' new Silverado 2500 turbodiesel. That thing hauls! Chevy, ftw!
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I wonder if the greater maintenence costs, greater purchase price and the actual price of diesel is worth it over the gas model?
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arumage
- Apr 14, 2008 2:07 pm
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If you regularly use your truck for what it was intended to do, then I'm sure it's worth the extra dollars. It's probably not worth it if you didn't really need a truck in the first place. :)
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How much does the urea fill-up cost? And who in the hell wants to a dealer for an oil change? They're exorbitant, just take a look at the ridiculous amount of money Edmunds shells out every time they go to a dealership with their long-term vehicles. I'll do it myself or take it to the local shop for 20 bucks, not bend over for some dealership.
That fuel economy increase better not include the new six-speed automatic transmission, either. It needs to get even better gas mileage once that is factored in.
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Diesels I've owned have had lower maintenance cost compared to gasoline vehicles I've owned, not higher.
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Lower maintenance costs, higher repair costs.
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