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Chevrolet Camaro Concept

(cough-cough) Sorry, still clearing my lungs from the various vintage Camaros that GM had drive past us on a long driveway set up in Cobo Hall. The Smokey Yunick, Sunoco Racing and 1969 ZL-1 and Z28 all drove past. But I'm not complaining. I love the smell of hydrocarbons in the morning. And I think this pretty clearly indicated which era the concept was inspired by. And here it comes...
Okay, I have to say that whenever you resurrect a classic design it's always a tricky balance between just copying the original and modifying the original without mucking it up. I personally think the new Mustang is the best current balance between the two directions a car company can take. It has undeniable vintage Mustang cues without being a pure rip-off of any one model -- and it still looks good.

The Ford GT is a straight rip-off from the original GT40, so no points for creativity, but major points for looking fabulous. The same can be said of the new Challenger concept (blatant rip-off, but it looks great).

The Camaro concept deviates from the original design in an attempt to look modern while retaining classic elements. I like the proportions and roofline, but I hate the grille (looks like a 1980s Monte Carlo) and the rear end (looks like a fat ZR-1). Obviously, with a concept you can still make changes before production. I have no suggested changes for the Challenger except they should tone down the rear taillight design. I think the Camaro needs some major tweaks to the front and rear ends before it sees an assembly line.

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18 Comments

By blueguydotcom

on January 9, 2006
09:39 AM

The 60's Camaros are gorgeous. This concept camaro thing is so...so...blah. Big thumbs down.

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By mirth

on January 9, 2006
11:33 AM

The Camaro requires a big grill in the front, but the one on this concept is a bit too thin. Reminds me of the Cylons on Battlestar Galactica, lol.

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By carlisimo

on January 9, 2006
01:15 PM

I like it more than the other two. It looks like a pony car, AND it looks like a car designed in the 2000's. It looks 5 years ahead of current design, which is exactly how a concept car should look.
 
Maybe I'm a minority in this respect, but I don't think 40-year old cars are going to do anything good for any company's image. It'd reinforce everything that import buyers believe about the domestics, and after several years the domestics would once again find themselves woefully behind the times.
 
I hope that at the very least, the Camaro concept makes its influence felt.

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By blueguydotcom

on January 9, 2006
01:57 PM

Wow, i see nothing forward thinking, aggressive or imaginative about the camaro's design. It's pedestrian at best.

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By ssiero1

on January 9, 2006
04:20 PM

Instead of rehashing a car of yesteryear, why doesn't GM spend money on creating a car better and more forward than the Japanese to secure their footing in the road ahead? I'd rather they spend money on a V6 that is reliable and as efficient in producing power as a Lexus...or even better.

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By 1487

on January 9, 2006
09:21 PM

The car looks very good to me. I dont know what car you people are looking at. Much better than the Mustang in my opinion. I wouldnt change much about this car at all. I supposed GM should've farmed the design out to Toyota or Honda, then I'm sure everyone would be a fan.

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By kurtamaxxxguy

on January 10, 2006
09:40 AM

Perhaps this and the other recent muscle cars are the future of Detroit? Auto Journalists go wild over them, car blog sites are choked with drivers begging for them, and the importers have no clue as to how to build them (a "Camary_maro"? fergitaboutit!). The only thing that will stop them is pay-by-mile insurance.

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By blueguydotcom

on January 10, 2006
12:55 PM

ROFL at the notion importers can't build such cars. Do you recall the Supra, Silvia or RX-7? Do you think the success of the G35c, Miata, 350z, M3, 330ci, 635ci, SLK might have convinced Detroit there's a market for fast, fun RWD cars?
 
Perhaps the mustang's resurgence helped convince the mopar/gm guys that people want fun, fast, rwd coupes. But europe and japan didn't abandon such vehicles. They've been building them for a long time. Detroit is waking up to the idea that people do like fun vehicles...not just big, lumbering SUVs.
 
Mazda's Kaburra, in my eyes, is the best thing shown at the NAIAS. Small, nimble, super light, RWD, stylish. It's everything the American muscle cars aren't. And never will be.
 
The funny thing is that in 2010-2011 when the muscle cars have fallen out of favor because they get lousy gas mileage and their performance is little more than straightline, the more efficient, classier, more driver oriented offerings from Japan and Europe will still be selling strongly. They'll go on, while the new muscle car craze will fizzle. 4k lbs cars that are massive, drive poorly and get 15 mpg aren't destined to last long with gas over $3.00 a gallon.

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By rf600r

on January 10, 2006
02:40 PM

The Mustang is boring already. The Challenger is nice, but extremely retro, like there were no new ideas to be found. The Camaro is best, combining classic inspiration with a fresh and modern design. What's wrong with the rear end? I think it's terrific, and far more interesting than the been-there-done-that Challenger or blah Mustang, Ford being the King of Blah lately.
 
Karl is obviously not a Chevy or GM fan. Why does he apparently think the slotted grille with partly covered headlights to be perfectly OK on the Challenger but not on the Camaro? Further, the grille looks NOTHING LIKE any Monte Carlo that I ever saw--I defy him to show photos that justify such a left field comparison. Styling may be largely subjective, but Karl sounds like he's grasping at straws here to do the usual GM bashing. Why am I not surprised? My advice, stick to mindlessly gushing about boring Toyotas and sterile Hondas. Maybe the hideous Ridgeline needs another award to overcome the resistance in the US marketplace, that's something you could work on maybe.
 
I predict that GM will build this Camaro largely as is, despite ascerbic criticisms from the likes of Inside Line, and it will sell out the first two years of production with no problem.

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By blueguydotcom

on January 10, 2006
11:45 PM

After year two it will wilt on lots...the fanbase will be satisfied and nobody else will touch it; it'll die the same death as the last ghastly camaro.

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By graboske

on January 11, 2006
07:50 AM

I can see the '83-88 Monte Carlo SS in the front of the Camaro. I wouldn't have thought of it if Karl hadn't pointed it out though.

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By kurtamaxxxguy

on January 11, 2006
09:34 AM

Back in the 60's, I __never__ heard any owners of Mustangs or other pony cars discuss handling. All they cared about was how fast the cars could go in a straight line. That is what I am referring to as a Muscle car, and what the Camaro is trying to tap into.
 
The importers seem more into road manners and handling, along with high horsepower. Many of their wares are simply too expensive for most americans. Not the Camaro, which apparently will be priced from $20K with V6 (they won't sell many of those), to $30K with big V8 (waiting list for those).

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By blueguydotcom

on January 11, 2006
09:46 AM

The V6 will make up the majority of sales. Whether you want to admit it or not most buyers are driven by looks and pocketbook. If they can get the "cool" looking car with a smaller engine, they will. Mustang, 3 series, 5 series, 300c, etc...the smaller engines still make up a majority of the sales. If Infiniti were to release a G30 with 230 hp and sell it for 25-30k they'd increase their sales by leaps. Look at Lexus and the IS250 - it's supposed to make up over 75% of the new IS sales.

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By sabastian

on January 12, 2006
08:28 AM

I'll be interested to see what Chevy does with the interior. History would tell us that the company will take its amazing concept interior and replace it with seven acres of black plastic.
 
Aside from that, this concept just shows how far downhill Chevy has gone. First they were trying to keep up with the Japanese, and now they're just trying to match Ford. I agree with whoever said that this car will sell until the fanbase is satisfied. In ten years they'll just be a bunch of static displays at used car lots.

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By ateixeira

on January 12, 2006
02:28 PM

Challenger > Mustang > Camaro
 
That's my take.
 
Send it back, it's not done yet. Looks like a Matchbox toy, not a real car.

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By travler

on January 12, 2006
02:30 PM

After 18 years of working at both Chevrolet and Honda dealerships the one thing that stands out most in my mind as a major difference is still quality. Yes, Honda is conservative, but they're sooooo dependable. A 10 year old Honda may be worth as much as $1500 to $2000 more than a 10 year old American car, and it'll still be running fine. They often get passed around the family more than once before they're done.
 
These retro/concept cars are a bandaid..a quick fix. It's temporary at best. Look at the Bug and the PT Cruiser. Flashes in the pan. They create temporary excitement, but not longlasting, loyal, we'll-be-back customers. If you were a manufacture which type of customer would you rather have?
 
Instead of building quality, they're grasping at the quick sale.
Wake up folks. It ain't workin.

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By navigator89

on January 13, 2006
12:23 PM

The Camaro is a truly exciting car, and seems like a good competitor to the Challenger and Mustang. However to me the problem seems to be that the Camaro and Challenger both wont be cheap, with estimated going arounfd $35K. That's quite a bit more than the V8 Mustang.
 
I think ultimately Ford will have the last laugh with the Mustang because of it's competitive pricing. Even the GT500 starts at $40K, which is the price roughly of a loaded Challenger.
 
With that being said I dont find anything wrong with the Camaro. It's got plenty of power, solid styling and a glorious heritage. I think the interior quality of this new car will be very good, as new GM cars are light years ahead of their predecessors in terms of material quality and construction. This car wont single handedly revive Chevrolet, however it will help along with the new Aveo, Tahoe, Suburban and Impala.

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By flivver

on January 18, 2006
09:04 PM

GM is late to the party with this one. Going retro now is not smart! Camaro needs to be fresh. Ford got away with a retro Mustang, but GM and Chrysler both are making a mistake to think they can too. There is too much competion today vs the 1960s and too few buyers for Mustang, Camaro and Challenger. I think Mustang sales are already starting to soften even before the competetors come out with their retros--don't do it!

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