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2007 Saturn Sky Redline: Hot Car in a Cold Town

   The good news I got to drive the Saturn Sky Red Line last week. The bad news is I drove it on the one day every decade or so when it snows in Los Angeles. I watched the outside temperature display go from 75 degrees as I pulled out of the underground parking lot to 35 degrees by the time I hit Mulholland. And with varying patches of dry and damp pavement (and the "Ice" warning flashing in the that same temperature display) I couldn't give it quite the workout I planned on. Yes, I was bummed, and no, I can't remember the last time I had icy roads stop me from effectively road testing a vehicle in Los Angeles. At least I didn't have to use Kanaan Road, a few miles west of my driving loop; there were plows over there clearing the packed snow...

The temperature did warm up to a cozy 45 degrees by the next morning, so I could at least play with the 260 turbocharged horsepower on PCH before taking this picture. The car has my favorite type of power -- sublime, meaning you don't realize how fast you're going until you're well past legal speeds. It's very progressive in delivery, which makes it sort of dangerous (in a good way) when you start rolling into the throttle. A very easy car to live with as a daily driver, though all the same faults of the Solstice remain (too much hard plastic, no interior storage space and dynamics that aren't as well sorted as the Miata). But until the MazdaSpeed version of the Miata hits this one makes a worthy consideration. I would, however, like to see a six-speed tranny for this kind of money ($30,000).

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14 Comments

By chavis10

on January 22, 2007
09:48 AM

I agree. They need a six speed manual as well as manual shifting for the automatic. Hopefully, it'll get an early update next year that'll may address some of the shortcomings. At least the Sky is a looker- much better than the solstice in my opinion.
 
BTW, the Ecotec is a direct injected turbocharged engine, not supercharged.

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By editor_karl

on January 22, 2007
12:36 PM

Sorry, my bad on the supercharger/turbocharger mis-speak (though the power delivery is progressive enough you could easily believe it's supercharged).

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By gmguy111

on January 22, 2007
02:31 PM

what a bummer the one day you want to put this thing through tis paces and it snows. But this car is a good seller for Gm they just need to put a power retractable top and refine the engine and the trannie and it would be greatly improved

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By snaponbob

on January 24, 2007
07:51 AM

As I own a Redline, and have quite a bit of experience with Miatas I find your statement "dynamics that aren't as well sorted as the Miata). But until the MazdaSpeed version of the Miata hits this one makes a worthy consideration" to be a contradiction. Since the MazdaSpeed version does not yet exist how can the current Miata be "more sorted" than the Kappas. The retail market seems to approve, and results in C/Stock Solo2 and SCCA SS/B road racing seem to show that the handling of the Kappas IS sorted. Please keep in mind that that Mazda has been tweaking the Miata for many years and the Kappas have been ramping up on the market for about 24 months.
 
I do agree that storage is not a strength, but a six speed would nearly be a waste of money. This car has SO much torque that in normal driving one can actually SKIP gears, and the car is horsepower and aero top speed limited. However, the Solstice Z0K could use a sixth gear for its intended road race market. A great number Sky/Solstice owners apparently have bought their Kappas as "extra" cars, and as such these are fantastic, fun cars.

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By editor_karl

on January 24, 2007
10:13 AM

My point is that even the non-MazdaSpeed Miata is better sorted than the Red Line version of the Sky, at least in terms of steering feel and overall driving pleasure. Just being fast (and even winning races) doesn't not a great road car make. The SL65 is faster than most two-seat convertibles currently on the market -- but it's not even close to being the "best" car for driving enthusiasts.

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By snaponbob

on January 25, 2007
08:39 AM

Respectfully, "feel" is subjective. Mazda has had 18 model years to sort out the Miata platforms, and with the latest version they have softened the car so much that it is generating gripes from Miata die-hards. Also, the market so shoping what it thinks - http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/12/14/soltice-unseats-miata-as-top-roadster/ This is a link to an article eslewhere on this site. Frankly. many people feel that the Miata has become somewhat "sterile".

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By carlisimo

on January 26, 2007
12:42 AM

It didn't really take Mazda 18 years to sort out the Miata... read the reviews from when it first debuted, it sounds like they had the important stuff sorted out from the beginning. But yeah, while I haven't driven a new one, there are certainly complaints, especially with the "sport" suspension that should be more of a departure from the standard one. And yet much of the media still prefers the Miata's dynamics over the Solstice and Sky's.
 
But I don't see them as direct competitors. Many Miata owners buy it as an only car, which is more difficult than with a Kappa car. And many Kappa car buyers would never consider a Miata - they were never looking for a small nimble roadster, they were looking for a cool car by their favorite brand and well, it just turns out to be a roadster.

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By flicmod

on January 26, 2007
07:17 AM

My manager just told me yesterday that she was in the market for a new car and she was looking at the Saturn Sky. She has a '00 or '01 Monte Carlo. The Sky would be her only car and she was concerned that she wouldn't be able to get her golf clubs in the trunk. I told her that it being a roadster wouldn't be very practical for much more than fun cruising during the summer here. It didn't really phase her. She's not about to go buy a sedan for more practicality and she's only considering a Sky because she's a GM fan, thinks they're "neat" looking, and prefers the style of the Sky over the Solstice. She's definitely not an enthusiast so knows hardly anything about cars.
 
She is the GM fan that's going for a SolSky and not even thinking about cross-shopping a Miata (she hates imports). But she's also going to buy this as her only car. Kind of a split statistic as per carlisimo's comments.

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By desmolicious

on January 26, 2007
11:39 AM

Well, she's gonna be able to fit her golf balls in the car, but not the clubs...

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By flicmod

on January 26, 2007
01:04 PM

Haha. Maybe I'll just let her buy one and find out on her own. I don't really care for her anyways. But let's keep that between us, shall we? If she buys one, she'll hate it for her purposes. Maybe that'll change her mind about solely supporting GM products.
 
No, no... that would be mean. A very expensive kind of mean.

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By phinneas519

on January 27, 2007
11:11 AM

You could pin the same limited space shortcomings on the Miata too, so that cross-shopping comment about the Miata is a bit irrelevant. Either way, it sounds like a poor decision to have a roadster as your primary vehicle. I don't even want to know what it would be like to drive one in Winter... Unless that's not an issue where you come from - I think my Wisconsin-ness is showing, what with my concern over winter driving dynamics.

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By editor_karl

on January 28, 2007
07:35 PM

The Miata's space (trunk and interior) is limited, but as a two-seat roadster it's very reasonable. The Solstice/Sky trunk/interior space is non-existent. If you put the top down in the Solstice/Sky you essentially can't put anything else in the "cargo" area (think Plymouth Prowler). Depending on the size/length of the golf clubs you might actually get them in a Miata. Since it's a "she" we're talking about there's a possibility her clubs wouldn't be all that long (disclaimer: not a knock against women here, I'm just talking statistics -- she could be a 6'1" ex-model, meaning she's taller than I am...). Either way, grocery bags (at least a couple) are a possibility in the Miata's trunk -- but they won't happen in a Solstice/Sky. And if you want to talk functional interior storage...well, let's not get into the gory details and just say the Miata is better.

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By phinneas519

on January 29, 2007
01:09 PM

That does remind me when I saw what looked like a wealthy man bringing in his tennis racket to get restrung at a high caliber sports store. He pulls in with his Solstice, full of pomp and circumstance only to have his racket where? Propped up on the passenger seat up front. That says enough, I think.

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By valistener

on January 30, 2007
04:08 PM

I have a Sky and use it as a daily driver in the summer. That means that I use it for my grocery getter as well. I have put all the full loads of groceries I have ever need to in the U part of the trunk even with the top down. The only think I could not get in was the 35lb bucket of cat litter. That what the passenger floor is there for.
Did you try to put groceries in there? Like my GTO the trunk is deceptively larger than it looks.

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