Honda RC30: Racing Really Should Improve the Breed

This post isn't just an excuse to show off my new bike (that's purely a bonus effect). Instead, I'm going to use the Honda RC30 to illustrate one of my favorite examples of "racing improves the breed."
See, this is the first Japanese motorcycle I've ever purchased. It has nothing to do with not liking Japanese products or trying to "support the home team," it's simply because I've never really liked the "feel" of most Japanese motorcycles. I grew up driving big block Mopars, with my first real car (after several glorified junkers) being a 1969 Plymouth GTX, powered by a 440 (7.2-liter) V8. That car taught me the beauty of torque, and I've been addicted ever since.
But, generally speaking, Japanese motorcycles aren't about torque. They are about multiple cylinders, sky-high rpms and horsepower. In terms of technical prowess, this philosophy is superior to using lots of cubic inches and fewer cylinders to create torque. In terms of riding (or driving) fun, torque still rules. I once heard it put this way: Horsepower is what you read about, torque is what you feel.
So while Japanese motorcycles weren't the torquey-ist kids on the block for most of the 20th Century, Honda is an engineering powerhouse and they like to overcome mechanical challenges. So they decided to create a V-4 engine (versus the inline fours most other Japanese motorcycle makers use) to take advantage of the increased torque and broader powerband offered by this design. And they decided to take it racing, too. This was in the 1980s, and by the late '80s the idea was paying off with championships in World Superbike racing. Of course they had to make street versions of their racing bikes, ergo the 1987-1990 Honda VFR750R, aka RC30.
But here's the best part -- the same characteristics that made the RC30 so capable on the racetrack (strong low-end torque and a broad powerband) also made it a great motorcycle on the street. Despite the bike's silly-high first-gear ratio (80 mph in 1st gear anyone?) it can pull cleanly away from a stop with the tachometer at just 3,000 rpm. Don't try that with a 1990 GSX-R 750, FZR 750 or ZX-7. Those bikes had to be spun to be fun, otherwise they'd fall flat on their torque-deficient faces. As a nice side benefit the RC30 ratains Honda's penchant for high rpm mechanical precision, so the RC30 can still rev to 12,500 rpm (with a second wave of explosive horsepower starting around 7,500 rpm). It also gets as good or better fuel mileage than comparable bikes.
"Does any of this pertain to cars in any way, Karl?" you're undoubtedly asking yourself (if you've made it this far). Yes! The point is that it's not only possible to translate racing designs into successful road products, it's something any manufacturing company could (and should) be doing. As with the RC30, Ford's original GT40 was designed from day one to have real-world road application -- unlike the competing Ferraris of the time, which were super-exotic, and super-fragile, racing machines that had no place in the real world. In both the Honda and Ford example, it didn't matter whether the companies were thinking road first or track first, the positive characteristics of both vehicles played out in both atmospheres.
As someone who just drove my 2005 Ford GT 100 miles to a racetrack (in total comfort and with lots of torque for passing maneuvers), then drove it at 140-plus mph around said track, then drove it home again, I really have no patience for the concept of a vehicle being "too race-oriented" for the street or "too real-world" for the track. A truly capable engineering team can create products that not only work in both arenas, but work better than the competition.
BTW, Honda's RC30 was eventually unseated from its championship throne in the 1990s -- by a two-cylinder, big-displacement Ducati motorcycle with even greater torque and a wider powerband. And even better street manners.
BTW, part 2, the Honda RC30 -- in showroom stock condition -- still holds the lap record for the Nurburgring.
Posted by Karl Mar 21, 2008 6:00 am
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estreka
- Mar 21, 2008 7:03 am
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I find Honda is the only mass production automaker that actually applies racing technology to its production fleet. Everyone else just seems to copy Honda. Honda has a disproportionate number of engineers hard at work in their R&D divisions.
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Trading one V4 for another, Cool! And to think, several months ago I thought that V4's had only ever been used in Outboard Boat-Motors. Of course, this says nothing of the fact that most of America Thinks they're driving a V4, but that's for a different conversation.
And, picswim, maybe it's because I'm from the South, but talking about other people's salaries is just not cool, especially in such a snide manner.
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bepperb
- Mar 21, 2008 7:23 am
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Karl, I'm glad to see you're open to some (relatively) high revving sportbikes. I guess I wish you had bought something will less torque and more horsepower, because the contrast of driving style and power delivery (to any car) is what makes driving them so enjoyable (at least for me). Beautiful bike. I would've preferred a NR500, but I'll settle to reading about this, and surely enjoy it. Any chance Edmunds has the cash for a Vincent to lend out to loyal readers?
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ewilfong
- Mar 21, 2008 9:11 am
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Nice article, Karl. I always assumed guys raced their motorcycle engines to such high RPMs because they were trying to be cool or perhaps because they enjoyed being loud, obnoxious jerks. Now I'm hearing they're basically doing what they have to do to extract fun from their bikes. So now I'm curious. How easy is it to have fun on this bike without being a loud, obnoxious jerk?
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Very easy. I have the same opinion of loud, whinning, buzzy sportbikes. They don't exude "cool" in my book. But the VFR doesn't need to make those noises to keep up (or even blow away) the bulk of traffic. On my first ride home I was shifting at what felt like a "fine" point in terms of power, acceleration, etc. -- shooting through traffic holes and generally placing the bike wherever I wanted with ease. But I wasn't watching the tach because I was more concerned with not getting squashed in traffic.
As I got closer to home, where there isn't any traffic, I finally started looking at the tach, and quickly realized I was consistently shifting around 6,000 rpm. Remember, redline is 12,500. I tried a couple 8,000-9000 rpm blasts in the most rural part of my commute and promptly scared myself.
I'm thinking this bike's tachometer will pretty much never see five digits -- even though it will happily go there. But for me that's the perfect performance machine. It should ideally have so much capability that even half of it's potential is more than enough to get the job done -- with room to spare.
Basically, it's a two-wheeled Ford GT.
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Karl,
It is a bit misleading to state that the RC30 "still" holds the track record at Nurburgring when the 'Ring quit recording "official" track records for motorcycles in 1994. The unofficial record is 21 seconds (!) faster than the RC30's time. Great bike - I have always been a fan of the Honda v4 (and owned a VFR750) - but, not surprisingly, it isn't as capable on the track as bikes 15 years newer.
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I figured someone might point that out -- but the statement is still 100% accurate:
"The Honda RC30 -- in showroom stock condition -- still holds the lap record for the Nurburgring."
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LOL...I noticed the same thing after doing some research but I decided to just let it go.
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Torque is why I enjoy diesel engines.
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rkoe36
- Mar 21, 2008 11:54 am
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I'm looking hard at a 2008 Triumph Street Triple for the reason of torque as well, Karl. The 675cc inline three makes a good compromise between the high power of a four banger and the grunt of a twin. It's a gnarly little beast. I hear that BMW Motorad is looking to bring out a 700 cc triple in the next few years for under $15 k . That'd be great, since it's technically half of an inline six. ha. That'd be cool for marketing, since I can think of no great disparity between a company that makes both cars and bikes than BMW (sporty cars, stodgy bikes).
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bepperb
- Mar 21, 2008 1:28 pm
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rkoe36, you should look at a K-series if you want a BMW triple. Great bikes, but you'll have to go back 10 years. Ewilfong, I'm sorry that I'm that guy on the buzzy bike sometimes. With stock exhaust, most bikes are pretty quiet, it's the 16 year olds with no wadding in a 70 dollar aftermarket pipe that are the problem. Of course, I live in Milwaukee where a motorcycle not heard ten miles away is unusual.
Karl, I shed a tear when you wrote "I'm thinking this bike's tachometer will pretty much never see five digits" and I doubt I'm the only one...
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Don't worry. The Ford GT rarely sees over 5,000 rpm, too (recent track day excluded). Again, the reason I love these vehicles is not for their ultimately performance, but their ability to perform so much better than the pack WITHOUT tapping into their ultimate performance. It means you're never wearing the vehicle out, and you're using far less fuel.
Remember, the GT's lifetime fuel mileage is over 16 mpg at 12,000 miles, and yet I'm consistently out ahead of the traffic packs on my commute up and down PCH. To me, that's a magic combination.
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estreka- Remember, Honda is an ENGINE company that happens to make cars, motorbikes, etc. Understanding that puts their leadership in engine technologies into perspective. It's also why people have a right to be disappointed in the latest Accord's V-6 engine, but I digress.
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rkoe36, stop looking hard at that '08 Triumph Street Triple and just get it. Now that my wife no longer rides pillion (my '02 Speed Triple 955 was a good girlfriend bike, but isn't comfy enough for a wife's tastes--despite being the same woman), I'd love to downsize to the lighter weight 675.
Agree with Karl--I love low end torque. My triple rarely sees the tach needle over 7k.
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texases
- Mar 24, 2008 10:10 am
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Karl, it's the tuning that gets you the torque on the RC30, right, not that it's a vee - you could make an I4 with identical bore/stroke/cams/intake, and it would be about the same in performance, wouldn't it? And yes, Ducati won, but that's more due to the 250cc extra the twins get, isn't it?
p.s. - I agree completely on torque over hp, 15,000 rpms holds no attraction for me. Maybe you should have gotten a vintage Kawasaki 900 Z1? There's some torque for you!
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No, I believe (in my limited engineering expertise) that there's a "physics thing" going on with the V4 layout that gives it more torque as a baseline, regardless of any tuning to enhance that feature. It also has something to do with the 360-degree crank firing on the V4, I think.
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texases
- Mar 24, 2008 10:44 am
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Hmmm - so wouldn't one expect an automotive V6 to 'out torque' an I6? Never heard of that....
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+1 texases.....'tis what I was thinking too.
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texases
- Mar 24, 2008 1:45 pm
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Karl, you are right that builders manipulate cylinder timing on their all-out race bikes in an attempt to make them more drivable, and less likely to disturb traction as racers roll on the gas while coming out of corners, but that a bit different animal, I think.
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g_k
- Mar 29, 2008 9:37 pm
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Nice bike - I've only ever seen two of them, and they're beautiful. The aluminum tank, quick-release front axle mounts, endurance racing-style headlights, etc., etc., really add to the cool factor. Not many bikes from that era still look good.
I think your engine theories are a bit incomplete, though - I've owned several relatively torquey V-twins, (Suzuki TL1000S, Ducati 748, Monster S4R, and 999, and Aprilia RSVR), but my current MV Brutale 910R has a very similar low-end and midrange. I've never owned a V-4, but I think engines can be designed with whatever power characteristics are desired - within reason, of course. I believe a new GSXR1000 has higher torque values than my 999 Ducati had.
By the way, I'm the guy that gave you a bad time in your Audi TT post about driving while yakking - I find it hard to believe that anyone who rides a motorcycle on public roads would use a cell phone in their car. I guess you consider yourself to be more skilled and attentive than the boneheads you encounter on the freeway that don't notice you 'cause they're blabbing away. Just a theory - I hope you enjoy your RC.
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