Long-Term Road Tests
2008 Scion xB
October 6, 2008
Hop into a Scion (or Toyota, for that matter) and you'll typically find most controls easy to use. But our xB has one annoying misstep -- the trip computer button. Instead of being located on the easily-reached center stack (as in a Ford or GM product), it's next to the trip meter button within the instrument cluster, requiring you to awkwardly reach over the steering wheel to prod with your finger.
Not cool for something you might want to toggle through to see what the outside temp is, what your average mileage is or how many miles you've got left in the tank. Chalk one up for the American car makers here.
John DiPietro, Automotive Editor @ 29,290 miles
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- Posted by: johnnyturbo October 6, 2008, 11:06 AM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB, Vehicles
September 26, 2008
A couple nights ago I was busy being all mundane and I treated myself to a bottle of Clearly Canadian (I absolutely love this beverage). The previous driver of our 2008 Scion xB had evidently set the illuminated cupholders to blue, and when I set the bottle down, this is what I saw: Unspeakable beauty.
And at that moment, this scene made me like our xB just a little bit more. If we were all in Europe and could drive around in Renault Kangoos and Fiat Multiplas, the Scion xB would probably be pretty unremarkable. But in the U.S., it's a pretty neat package -- huge space and a reasonably cool shape for not much money. Indeed, the interior is plasticky and the driving experience rather dull, but if you think of it like a utility van, this matters a bit less.
Erin Riches, Inside Line Senior Editor at 28,886 miles
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- Posted by: Erin Riches September 26, 2008, 4:32 PM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
September 25, 2008
This is not the latest in xB wheel customization. This is the spare tire that came with our long-term Scion xB. It is yellow and reminds us of the Denver boot, but in kind of a good way. The xB is rockin' the donut because we recently flatted while on the mean streets of west Los Angeles. Those tire pressure warning lights really work. Before I could feel the bumpity-bump of the flat, the little helpful light caught my eye as I rolled down Venice Boulevard and gave me enough time to turn into a nearby service station before things got too dicey. Wish I had a shot of the flat when I did finally see it. Looked like a vintage cartoon flat, the kind that appears to have melted onto the asphalt.
We took the xB to Stokes Tire Pros in Santa Monica to get a replacement the next day. Our bill came to $154.50 for one 205/55/R16 Bridgestone Turanza EL400-02, installed after one night's stay, since Stokes didn't have the tire in stock and had to order it.
Bryn MacKinnon, Senior Editor, Edmunds.com @ 28,677 miles
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- Posted by: Bryn MacKinnon September 25, 2008, 11:48 AM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
September 24, 2008
I was thinking the other day (always a dangerous proposition, I know) and wondering how all the current (or really, really recently departed) Edmunds/Inside Line long-term vehicles stack up against each other in fuel economy, at least the fuel economy we've been recording during their time with us. So I made a list. For you and for me. In case we were both wondering.
The only current vehicles missing from my list are the Audi R8 and the Dodge Grand Caravan, and that's because no one has entered any fuel data into the tracking spreadsheet for those vehicles yet. The very top and the very bottom of the list aren't going to surprise anybody (I don't think), but the middle is kinda interesting. Seeing the Rondo and the WRX so close to each other made me raise my eyebrows. Ditto the Ford GT's spot above the Veracruz. Ready to check it all out? Follow the jump with me.
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- Posted by: Bryn MacKinnon September 24, 2008, 10:06 AM
- Categories: 2002 BMW M3, 2004 Toyota Prius, 2005 Ford GT, 2005 Volkswagen Jetta GLS TDI, 2006 Lexus RX 400h, 2007 Chevrolet Silverado LT, 2007 Ford Edge SEL, 2007 Honda Civic GX, 2007 Honda Fit Sport, 2007 Kia Rondo, 2007 Saturn Aura XR, 2007 Toyota Tundra SR5 Double Cab, 2008 BMW 135i, 2008 BMW X5 4.8i, 2008 Buick Enclave CX, 2008 Cadillac CTS V6 DI, 2008 Ford Focus SES Coupe, 2008 Honda Accord EX-L V6, 2008 Hyundai Veracruz SE AWD, 2008 Mazda CX-9, 2008 Mercedes-Benz C300 Sport, 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X MR, 2008 Pontiac G8 GT, 2008 Scion xB, 2008 Smart Fortwo Passion Coupe, 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI, 2009 Ford Flex Limited, 2009 Nissan GT-R
August 8, 2008
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- Posted by: Mike Schmidt August 8, 2008, 3:30 PM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
July 18, 2008
I'm two-for-two today. First the BMW X5 service went off without a hitch and now the Scion is back from its appointment at Scion of Santa Monica good as new.
The appointment was made last night for an 8am drop. The maintenance light was on and the left brake was squealing a bit. We also had that bothersome issue with the caps on the wheels.
Two hours after we dropped it off I got the call that the Xb was ready. The service called for a tire rotation, oil change, fluid top-offs, and general inspection. The charge for that was $94.95. Slightly more than Edmunds Maintenance calulator estimates.
When I got the call I had a confession to make, I'd forgotten to mention the peeling plastic parts over the lug nuts. Turns out my advisor had noticed the bad plastic and had replaced them without being asked to. Nice!
All things considered it was a great experience.
Mike Magrath, Vehicle Testing Assistant @ 20,706 miles.
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- Posted by: Mike Magrath July 18, 2008, 2:03 PM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
July 14, 2008
The Scion xB is kind of like the automotive equivalent of the Rorschach inkblot test. Different people see different things when they look at it. This became clear to me after a conversation I had with my neighbor this weekend.
We'd crossed paths in my apartment building's carport. He'd asked about the xB, and I was telling him how roomy its interior is. He described the xB as a "really cool SUV." That threw me. I mean, sure, it makes sense that people would cross-shop the xB against compact SUVs, because it's of a similar size and offers similar amounts of cargo room -- we even published a blog post that offered some relevant specs for those interested in running comparisons. But I didn't think that people looking at the boxy little Scion would ever actually mistake it for a sport utility vehicle.
When the members of the Edmunds.com data team look at the xB, they see a compact wagon -- that's how this Scion is categorized on the Edmunds site. I mentioned this to my neighbor, and his jaw dropped; clearly, the xB doesn't fit his definition of a wagon. Our data team defines a wagon as "a car with a roof line that extends past the rear doors in addition to having
four doors and rear quarter windows." To make the SUV cut, a vehicle needs to have higher ground clearance -- a minimum of 5.7 inches. The xB comes in at 5.1 inches.
Others consider the Scion xB a hatchback. What do you see when you look at the xB?
Warren Clarke, Automotive Content Editor @ 20,545 miles
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- Posted by: Warren Clarke July 14, 2008, 3:40 PM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
July 10, 2008
Seriously, can you think of weirder dashboard than the one found in our second-generation Scion xB? This isn't what the inside of a car is supposed to look like. The huge monolithic slab of plastic that stretches from door to door. The center console that juts out like a urinal. The gauges that look like the Audi emblem that are placed toward the center for no particular reason. The touchscreen and its tiny icons. The jumbo airvents placed asymetrically all over the place. The faraway upright windshield. The steering wheel that almost looks out of place. Come to think of it, with that green mood lighting, I sorta feel like I'm piloting a Borg cube rather than a car.
This is truly weird. Is there anything weirder?
James Riswick, Automotive Editor @ 20,459 miles
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- Posted by: JRiz July 10, 2008, 8:48 AM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
July 9, 2008
Just about a month ago, James Riswick made it known that the Scion Xb's giant nearly vertical windshield had cracked. It was a dime-sized chip with some spider-webbing that was most likely caused by an errant rock...that or a jealous ex-girlfriend with a ball-peen hammer and limited arm strength.
Recently the Mini Cooper S, which is a loaner from the manufacturer, had its window replaced by the dealer at the fantastic cost of 1,231.67 USD. We own the Xb so we ditched the dealer (who quoted us $1,300) and called Glass Doctor. Not only did they come to us, something the Mini dealer surely did not, but they were done quicker and only charged $443.73.
Mike Magrath, Vehicle Testing Assistant @ 20,000 miles
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- Posted by: Mike Magrath July 9, 2008, 3:33 PM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
As I pulled into my parking garage last night, I was struck by this image on the nav screen. The Toyota/Scion/Lexus system features truly amazing map detail, displaying the outlines of large buildings that Google Maps only recently began doing. Some are more accurate than others, though. That building outline is exactly what my apartment complex looks like, although curiously, the 30-story building located directly south on Wilshire is M.I.A. Also, that blue spot isn't some random rectangular urban lake, it's an apartment -- not sure why they get a special color.
I was also struck by how ridiculously accurate GPS is -- that is exactly where my car was located inside the building (and with four floors above me). Having said that, though, please don't rob me. If you plan on burgling someone, try that long rectangular building north of mine -- Magrath lives there. He drives home much nicer cars and keeps large stashes of gold bouillon in his closet.
James Riswick, Automotive Editor @ 20,444 miles
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- Posted by: JRiz July 9, 2008, 9:00 AM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
July 7, 2008
I know it's barely been a month since the last fuel economy update for our long-term 2008 Scion xB -- but with California gas prices having increased by about 34 cents during June alone, MPGs were on my mind as I puttered around in the xB this weekend. While our lifetime average is holding steady at about 23.5 mpg, I recorded a meager 20.75 mpg when I filled up this morning. Remarkably, aside from one rogue 32 mpg tank way back in October, we've never gotten over 30 mpg in the xB. And it's not like we haven't tried -- Director of Vehicle Testing Dan Edmunds racked up 261 miles at an average speed of 70 mph en route to Arizona, and he only saw an even 28 mpg (which is exactly what the EPA predicts).
Granted, the xB can haul a lot of stuff -- those 69.9 cubic feet of cargo volume make our 23.5 mpg average easier to swallow. But it's still a little disappointing that this four-cylinder econowagon can't do better on gas. The primary culprit is Toyota's torquey 2.4-liter four; I bet a lot of xB owners would gladly sacrifice some of that underhood punch for a few extra MPGs. Alternatively, Toyota could produce its own version of Mini's turbocharged 1.6-liter four-banger for best-of-both-worlds performance, though that probably wouldn't come cheap.
Josh Sadlier, Associate Editor, Edmunds.com @ 20,425 miles
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- Posted by: S.B. True July 7, 2008, 10:40 AM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
June 23, 2008
One of the things I've come to really appreciate about our 2008 Scion xB is its low step-in height. I just step in over the short door sill and the xB floor is just right there. Consequently, there's no having to jump down from a high seat or having to scramble out of a low seat. Just so easy that I'd even go so far as to say it should be included on this top 10 list of vehicles for shorter drivers...
And it would probably also be useful for those with weak ankles, bad backs or acrophobia. I know I'm especially grateful for it when I'm wearing skirts and/or skyscraper-tall heels. Yikes.
Caroline Pardilla, Deputy Managing Editor @ 19,906 miles
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- Posted by: Caroline Pardilla June 23, 2008, 10:47 AM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
June 9, 2008
There's plenty to like about the redesigned xB - Toyota knows there's beauty in the details. I like how the Scion logo on each wheel has a sculpted metal look. It doesn't bother me that the center piece is really plastic but I'd be really bummed as a Scion owner if the paint began flaking off that plastic piece with just 19,000 miles on the clock like it is on our car. Every center cap but one on our long termer is doing the same thing to some degree...
Hopefully Scion will replace at no charge.
Brian Moody, Road Test Editor @ 19,863 miles,
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- Posted by: Brian Moody June 9, 2008, 5:53 AM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
June 6, 2008
It's been a good many months and at least 8,000 miles since we last gave an update on our Scion xB's long-term fuel economy. I have to report that we haven't improved our numbers. In fact, we've done a little worse than our last reported figures. Lifetime average is now at 23.5 mpg (down from 23.9), just half a point below the EPA combined estimate of 24...
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- Posted by: Bryn MacKinnon June 6, 2008, 9:43 AM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
June 5, 2008
Oops, there I go again. I mean, the xB has a crack. Like our Mini Cooper's, the Scion xB's upright windshield has become victim of some errant road debris...
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- Posted by: JRiz June 5, 2008, 3:15 PM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
June 2, 2008
When I connect my iPod Touch to the xB, I get the above message. If I shut the car off then re-start or connect before the car is switched on, everything works fine. Maybe we need to keep computers and cars separate - just sayin'
Brian Moody, Road Test Editor.
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- Posted by: Brian Moody June 2, 2008, 3:22 PM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
May 5, 2008
You can't say the 2008 xB is much of a Scion, really. There's just too much of it. It's outsize and overstated, a kind of self-conscious imitation of itself. It drives a bit like a Camry, carefully insulated from the roadside world with a smoothly spinning Camry 2.4-liter engine and spongy Camry suspension, only with these narrow bunker-style windows...
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- Posted by: May 5, 2008, 7:24 AM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
April 30, 2008
Apparently, the cute little xB is very inviting. My son wanted to just sit inside and hang out - it was all his idea. Of course little sister has to follow along. Hey Scion, here's your lower age demographic...
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- Posted by: Brian Moody April 30, 2008, 1:00 PM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
April 14, 2008
So last weekend I'm in a parking lot unloading a bike out of the xB when...
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- Posted by: Dark Helmet April 14, 2008, 4:24 PM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
April 9, 2008
There's been some grumbling here and there about the second-generation Scion xB's styling. "Too mainstream," I've heard. "Not as boxy-cool as the old one."
I say poppycock.
First of all, the original xB had one of the gnarliest automotive underbites I've ever seen...
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- Posted by: S.B. True April 9, 2008, 11:47 AM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
March 31, 2008
For our last day of our spring break trip to Arizona in the 2008 Scion xB, I thought we'd cruise back in search the elusive 30 mpg mark. That would be an accomplishment, as the EPA rating for the 2008 xB with an automatic transmission is 22 city / 28 highway. We'd equalled the highway rating while cruising to Arizona at 75 mph along the interstate. Could we beat it by staying closer to 65 mph on the way back to SoCal?
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- Posted by: Dan Edmunds March 31, 2008, 9:59 AM
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March 30, 2008
Day 4 of our Arizona tour in the 2008 Scion xB was another short one, as the Arizona towns of Prescott and Wickenburg are only a scant 59 miles apart. The regular way, the way any navigation system will route you, is a sinuous, low-speed affair, especially the first 20 miles. It's the obvious choice in the right kind of sports car. But traffic can bog things down and my cohorts get carsick easily.
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- Posted by: Dan Edmunds March 30, 2008, 8:01 PM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
March 29, 2008
Day three of our Arizona tour in the 2008 Scion xB was a short one, as we spent the entire day covering just 64 miles. But they were a spectacular 64 miles, in more ways than one.
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- Posted by: Dan Edmunds March 29, 2008, 6:22 PM
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March 28, 2008
No, we weren't on a mission to see a Korean-made minivan. We left Phoenix in our 2008 Scion xB and headed north on Interstate 17 to Sedona, Arizona, otherwise known as red rock country. This freeway climbs up several grades, so we weren't expecting to set any fuel economy records.
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- Posted by: Dan Edmunds March 28, 2008, 5:49 PM
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Day one of our Arizona Spring Break tour ended with a bang and an expletive. We were travelling North on Loop 101 in Glendale, Az, within 5 miles of our first stop, when a loud "crack" sounding like an over-enthusiastic billiard shot startled the four of us.
A plumber's van a car-length ahead in the next lane had kicked up a stone. There was no avoiding it. I guess now we'll get to see how much a new 2008 Scion xB windshield costs.
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- Posted by: Dan Edmunds March 28, 2008, 5:23 PM
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March 25, 2008
I'm on my way home from the office, about to spend the next few days on vacation with my family in our 2008 Scion xB, when I notice the "Maint Reqd" lamp was on. Oh dear. I hate it when my maint gets reqd.
A sticker in the top corner of the windshield indicates the next oil change is due at ... the exact same mileage now displayed on my odometer. What a co-inky-dink. Too late to turn back now. I guess I'll do it myself.
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- Posted by: Dan Edmunds March 25, 2008, 1:41 PM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
March 20, 2008
Don't get me wrong, I dig the boxy dimensions of our Scion xB. Cool look on the outside (I think so, anyway), and lots of passenger room on the inside. But does Scion really need another eccentric-looking box in its lineup? At the New York Auto Show, the manufacturer revealed the concept shown above...
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- Posted by: Warren Clarke March 20, 2008, 2:01 PM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
March 10, 2008
Even though our long-term xB's front-seat legroom has increased by 4.6 inches over the previous model's, the lack of a telescope function for the steering wheel suggests that this vehicle was designed with shorter-legged Japanese physiques in mind.
Once I'd slid the driver's seat all the way back, the legroom did prove adequate for my moderately gangly 6'1" frame on a two-hour trek to Red Rock Canyon State Park yesterday. However, I found that I had to extend my arms to their fullest, all but locking my elbows, in order to reach the top of the steering wheel. I also noticed that my left elbow hung off the back of the door-mounted armrest (which was actually just as well -- talk about hard plastic!). Despite the added legroom, it's like the xB's engineers didn't seriously think that someone of my dimensions would end up driving the car.
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- Posted by: S.B. True March 10, 2008, 10:55 AM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
February 25, 2008
The Scion xB is, like the Kia Rondo, one of the long-termers that, although it doesn't give me heart flutters when I drive it, is nonetheless a nice car to take. The xB is peppy, and both easy to park and easy to drive in city traffic, thanks to its subcompact dimensions. Yet like the others of its ilk (e.g. Honda Element, Pontiac Vibe, Chevy HHR), it offers a large, comfortable cabin. A few other features endear it to me as well...
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- Posted by: johnnyturbo February 25, 2008, 5:36 PM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
February 21, 2008
One of the best things about our Scion xB is its optional head unit with iPod interface.
You can hook up directly to an iPod connector that will charge your iPod as it plays or if you have another brand of music player, you also have the choice of using an AUX port.
The graphics in the xB's system mimic those on the iPod, that is, the older iPods at the time it was created. The navigation wheel is displayed on the screen...
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- Posted by: Donna Derosa February 21, 2008, 4:39 PM
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February 20, 2008
I've been coveting a red wool rug at Pier 1 for the past six weeks, patiently waiting for the floral beauty to go on sale.
On Sunday, after a month of watching me stalk the store, my husband had enough.
"Just buy the thing already, wouldja?" he begged. "Buy it now, today, while you have a car big enough to haul the rug, you, and your crazy obsessions home at the same time."
Just the words of encouragement I needed...
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- Posted by: Kelly Toepke February 20, 2008, 12:03 PM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
February 5, 2008
I’ve enjoyed driving the xB around town; it responds nicely to the road and has been comfortable for me and my family. One feature that has been somewhat frustrating is the lack of any light in the cabin. When I pull into my garage and remove the key from the ignition the cabin is all but pitch black minus the neon blue illumination under the driver’s door, a nice style detail, but not nearly enough light to locate my phone and other accessories that I need to take inside. (The photo above is an accurate depiction, not just the result of a bad photographer!)
Alison Steinlauf Anziska, Marketing Specialist @ 12,750 miles.
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- Posted by: February 5, 2008, 2:38 PM
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January 22, 2008
Here's a shot of the xB's cargo area. And below is a list of everything I put in it this weekend...
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- Posted by: Dark Helmet January 22, 2008, 11:59 AM
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January 15, 2008
The Scion xB falls into its own little category. Is it a wagon? Not really...
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- Posted by: JRiz January 15, 2008, 10:47 AM
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January 7, 2008
I drove our long-term 2008 Scion xB over the weekend, and it dutifully provided transportation to the farmers market, the movies and the laundromat. I find the xB comfortable to sit in for an hour or two, and the combination of a large interior and a low lift-over height makes it exceptionally easy to load vegetables and laundry.
I also take some joy in the novelty of driving a vehicle that looks and feels a bit like a delivery truck...
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- Posted by: Erin Riches January 7, 2008, 1:47 PM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
January 2, 2008
I've used our 2008 Scion xB's navigation system a couple of times in the past, and came away pretty impressed. The setup is incredibly intuitive, and I was able to get the information I needed without any puzzled frowns or head-scratching.
When I used the system yesterday, though, it did something weird. I was preparing to leave for a friend's New Year's Day party deep in the unfamiliar recesses of the Valley, and figured I'd use the nav to get a little help...
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- Posted by: Warren Clarke January 2, 2008, 1:14 PM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
December 26, 2007
I'm just going to cut to the chase and say that I wish the interior bits of our xB were as unique as the rest of the car. The exterior styling is fresh and different. The center mounted gauge pod, though at first awkward, is unusual and fits the personality of the car. My issues are with the automatic transmission console and HVAC controls (lifted straight from the Toyota parts bin) as well as the button that changes the illumination on the floor and in the cupholders...
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- Posted by: Kurt Niebuhr December 26, 2007, 11:02 AM
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December 14, 2007
Whenever we have to buy a Toyota or a Scion xB I call my friend Dianne Whitmire who is, right now, working at Toyota of San Juan Capistrano. I would happily buy my Toyotas and Scions elsewhere but her prices are so good, she gets the car I want and she even anticipates what we might want and asks before I contact her.
Long story short, when we decided to get the 2008 Scion xB I contacted Dianne and told her what we wanted. She began emailing me photos of the xBs they had on their lot or the ones that were "inbound."
The only difficulty with buying the xB was the color...
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- Posted by: Philip Reed December 14, 2007, 5:20 PM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
December 10, 2007
The Scion xB's seating position is low -- so low I could almost feel the tarmac scorching the backs of my thighs as I spent time behind the wheel this weekend. Every time I fired up the engine, I found myself reflexively trying to adjust the seat, to make it sit just a little bit higher. The low position felt strange at first, but I got used to it with no worries. Still, if you're the type of driver who likes having a perch with commanding views, the xB will leave you disappointed...
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- Posted by: Warren Clarke December 10, 2007, 1:32 PM
- Categories: 2008 Scion xB
December 7, 2007
I tallied up our 2008 Scion xB's fuel economy today. After 10,000 miles, we averaged 23.9 mpg. Our best tanks have typically been about 29 mpg while the worst drop down to about 19 mpg. The EPA estimate for this vehicle is 22 mpg city/28 mpg highway...
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- Posted by: Brent Romans December 7, 2007, 12:50 PM
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December 3, 2007
I've been driving our 2008 Scion xB for almost two weeks now. And I'm still not quite sure what I think of it. Rationally, there's a lot to like. It looks distinctive, is roomy, can be fitted with a lot of customizing accessories and has decent pep from the 2.4-liter engine...
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- Posted by: Brent Romans December 3, 2007, 11:38 AM
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November 26, 2007
I used our 2008 Scion xB last week for the Thanksgiving Day holiday weekend. This meant driving to the in-laws' house with my wife, a four-month-old baby in a reverse-facing carseat and a significant amount of stuff for 600 miles roundtrip.
By stuff, I mean two suitcases, the baby's Pack 'n Play play-yard, two duffel bags, a cooler, a garment bag, a computer laptop bag, a tennis racket, a backpack, an SLR camera bag, three tote bags, two cake holders, two pillows and other accoutrement.
The xB managed the load, though I did have to pack everything pretty tight...
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