Official specs: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V makes 556 horsepower

Let me know when it gets 55.6 mpg.

Man, this is gonna be a real dog fight as the Caddy has put up some impressive specs.
 
The next M5 will have a 5.5L TT V10 that makes around the same power (or more) as the Caddy but less torque. The 7 speed SMG might make it an even playing field as the curent M5 runs in the mid 12's with "only" 369 lbft.
 
Audi with their RS6 will have 580hp TT V10 but Im unsure if they will bring the sedan to the States. As of now I think its only available in wagon form accross the pond.
 
AMG....hmmm... Given that Mercedes recently stated that they will use different technologies and not be so eager to push the HP envelope Im not sure what to expect from the the next E63 AMG.
 
Ahem...Ahem.....Id also look for a Lexus GS-F in the next few years! (wink)

GOD BLESS AMERICA

Very nice. Not everyone's looking for a Prius, even at $4/gallon.
 
What I want, though, is a wagon. They're doing a CTS wagon but there's no commitment to a V version and from the pics so far the CTS wagon looks too Toyota, not as useful as the Germans and especially the Benz.

Exactly. For those who can afford the car, and the gas for it, this is an awesome machine. I hope to indulge in one soon.
 
For those poor nerds who thinks 50 MPG is sexy and fun, knock yourselves out. Me? I'll have more fun in a CTS-V, and I can afford the gas for it.

stingray,
 
Thanks for living excessively and contributing to high gas prices :-)
 
But, hey. It's America, isn't it? Do what you want.

Expecting 11/15 mpg may be a more reasonable guess. Not a bad investment as CTS-V will probably be the last car its kind. The next M3 or RS4 will probably be V6 or I6 force induction.

flicmod: Anyone that is going to buy this vehicle can afford $10 a gallon gas. The limited market for it will have no appreciable effect on gas prices and the Government will get its pouind of flesh via the gas guzzler tax. At least it will be as efficient as those gas hungry Escalades and Hummers driven by supposedly green Hollywood celebrities and much more fun! You're right, this is America and those that can indulge are free to do so until the fringe loonies get their way.

I doubt the person shopping for this will even look at the gas mileage.
 
I do think that this arms race for brute power with no consideration for efficiency it will reduce the "halo effect" that this car has on GM, though.
 
It's just about bragging rights, basically, and many consumers don't even want to hear about it.

Wrong, many consumers DO want to hear about it. I'm pumped about the fact that they're continuing to make cars with some guts to them. I'm sick and tired already of hearing about the smart car (death trap) and the prius (can't get out of its own way on the freeway)!
 
The price of gas be damned, bring on performance.

stingray-
Thank you for contributing to high gas prices. I hope you get laughed at when gas hits $10/gal.
 
This is an awesome car, but at the wrong time. GM is dumb for producing it now.

I heard it gets 556 mpg!

Holy SH@#%! M5 should prepare to get dusted. Forget everyone who says this is a bad time for GM to produce the V. M5 buyers aren't financially affected by the ridiculous gas prices.

556 hp, bleh.
You need at least 600 to get me out of bed in the morning.

Put this drivetrain in the XLR-V?

I'm no idiot. Obviously you can afford $10/gallon for gas when you own a car that costs $60K+. Any schmuck can figure that out.
 
It doesn't matter if this vehicle has no appreciable effect on gas prices. You're still wasting fuel at an excessive rate. And at a point in automotive history where some of the top selling models in America are the Civic and Corolla, 15MPG really stands out as wasteful.
 
The automakers can easily develop engines with darn near this much power and also be relatively fuel efficient; say near 20-22MPG. The technology exists. Let's start using our brains and develop intelligent cars.

flicmod , why is is it with radicals like you that its one or the other?
 
what wrong with a wrold with both?
 
Of course the answer you really want to give no one in the right mind would agree to. Dictaroships ruled by people that are part of the church of al-gore.

LOL! Are you pegging me for a liberal?!? Sorry, but I'm not. Nor am I an environmentalist. Nor am I a radical.
 
I believe the last paragraph in my last comment proves that I'm not any of those things. I don't want mere fuel efficiency. I want ENGINE EFFICIENCY. That include horsepower, torque, weight, performance, fuel mileage, etc. EVERYTHING.
 
So, no, I'm not a radical. But, yes, I see something wrong with "both"... whatever that means. I want the best of everything.
 
What's wrong with trying to excel at everything?

I'd still take the m5

You are looking at the best four door sedan, period. It will smoke any four door under $100k (i'd imagine an S65 AMG is quicker), looks good, and has a much better more functional interior than any of them. I don't understand why this car is "stupid" at this point in time and BMW and MB will continue producing Ms and AMGs. This is a limited edition rich man's toy and I'd love to have one- in spite of gas prices.

How do we know we are looking at the best four door sedan, period?
Has anyone outside GM tested it yet?
Riding spec sheets does nothing but encourage paper cuts.

This and the announcement of the continental flying spur speed in one week?
its a good week to love the sedan!

desmolicious-
 
Name one better. I challenege you.

Of course this is excessive, but it will still sell, just as feul inefficient Ferraris and Porches do. And GM will still produce fuel efficient cars like the upcoming redesigned Cobalt and Volt. But those who are willing to spend 60k on a niche car aren't as concerned with fuel prices (for now).
 
And there is no way to make a car that can produce this much power and performs this well much more efficient.

albook,
 
Ever hear of the Corvette? Get's 28MPG highway and STILL has over 500HP.
 
There ARE ways of making high performance, fuel efficient cars.

chavis. Noone outside GM has tested this car yet. Maybe it is the best. But until it is tested noone knows.
I hope it is so that it forces the other mfgs to raise their game. Nothing like competition to improve the breed.

"albook,
 Ever hear of the Corvette? Get's 28MPG highway and STILL has over 500HP.
 There ARE ways of making high performance, fuel efficient cars."
 
Yep, drive an aerodynamic car at the speed limit with a VERY light foot.
 
28 mpg in the real world?... not a chance.
 
I have a friend with a 2007 vette and he averages 14 mpg in his daily commute.

I bet I could get 30MPG out of the 'Vette.

I've owned four 6-speed manual transmission Corvettes from 1989-2001. All of them got over 30 mpg on the highway doing 70-75 mph, and 18-20 mpg in town.

Flicmod-
 
The Base 436hp Corvette isn't even eparated at 28mpg, let alone the monster Z06. You coould achieve that by doing that hypermiler thing, but then whats the point of having a Vette?

I think what needs to be remembered is the CTS-V, like all V-series Cadillacs, are limited production cars. They are not mainstream offerings and were never intended to be. Cadillac, by the nature of the customers they are marketing to, competes with BMW, Audi, and Mercedes. They must have compelling offerings, including products that compete at the high performance range. Mercedes AMG and BMW M products are not mainstream offerings either, just like V series. Cadillace is not looking to move 100,000 of these cars, but they do want to win customers who are looking for a high performance sedan and are not necessarily concerned about the fuel economy aspect. If I had the money, I would love to own one of these cars. I would likely have a more efficient daily driver and keep this for weekend runs. As someone else pointed out, choice and competition are good things.